Moreton Interview: The Power of Community

Moreton delve into the depths of the challenges life propels at us in ‘Circles’. The rock-folk infused track intersects the darkness and pain of life with the ferocity and whims of the natural world. We chat to lead singer and guitarist Georgia Moreton about ‘Circles’, nature and the force of community building.


A1on1: How has this past week been since the release of “Circles”? 
GM: This week has been awesome and super surprising. You just never really know, so it’s easier to not get your hopes up and not to presume people are going to listen to it or share it. When it does, it’s really surprising. 

Did your bandmates and the other people involved in the song expected such a positive reception?
Probably not because we’re in the same position where it’s an emotional project for us, so it’s better to keep expectations low. With music, it’s hard. It’s a slug and at this time in music, a lot of nuanced, downtempo, alternative music isn’t getting as much space as it used to. That is also part of the mix. It’s easy to think that this detuned, doomed folk song of ours is probably not going to get reps and probably will just have a cult following. It’s definitely been nice to see the wheels turn so fast in the first week. 

Moreton brand their music as sentimental nihilism, which is an complex dichotomy. 
Who first described it as that kind of music? Was it you?

Yeah, it was. I write songs and just explore my own mind and own philosophy and at one moment I said, “I’m a nihilist, but the most sentimental nihilist that exists”. I do ultimately believe that life is meaningless, and it doesn’t matter. It’s just a tiny, tiny fleck in this huge expanse that is time and my life is not even a speck within it.
I think that is what makes me hyper-enthusiastic to notice the whole word because I kind of feel like I’m just stepping back and looking at this crazy place where we have attached all of this meaning and so much identity to everything that we do and everything that we are. I write a lot about the natural world which I am super in awe of and trying to enjoy [it]. I want to spend my life exploring my curiosity and enjoying nature and making art while I do that. 

The natural environment and physical surroundings are potent and have close attachment in describing Georgia’s cycle of emotion. 
How has the knowledge and awareness of your surroundings grown over time? Do you think it’s something you innately had?

I was a really hyper-imaginative child, and everything was about creating a fantasy world, dress ups, cubbies. Normal childhood stuff, but also to the extreme where I’ve always been involved in the arts in every way. I did struggle for a long time.
The nihilism side can make you feel really separate from society because it’s hard to believe in what you’re doing when you don’t really believe that it matters and when you don’t identify with normal societal notions, like the idea of a legacy and leading a better future for our children. I don’t believe it. I don’t believe that anything humans are doing matters. It can be a really depressing space. I think I’ve fought really hard to do something beautiful and productive and life-affirming with that disconnect. 

Do you think that the isolation you felt gives you a stronger bond between your musical and personal identity? 
Definitely. So close. It’s so close, but it’s so removed. It’s a dichotomy in itself. It’s like I’m [moving] through personal experience and I’m creating from that. As soon as I’ve created it, it’s utter fantasy and I’m manipulating it, whether it’s lyrically or sonically. I’m manipulating it to be something that is no longer based on reality. It becomes its own kind of being, and then songs take a life on their own and you try to serve them. You’re on a quest to search for what’s already there. 

So, is music answering the questions that are within you?
Yeah, or posing an opportunity to ask and explore more questions, because I don’t really believe there are answers. Exploring is a life and the making music that is exploring the ideas is a career rather than a distant point in the future. I’m just trying to have a career that is following my curiosity. 

“Circles” was born as a result of floods that affected Georgia’s new home and her community in Queensland. 
Was “Circles” an idea before the flood had occurred? 
No, it wasn’t really. It was born out of the flood. I wanted to write another song for the record and I was trying to write [it]. The flood had already happened at that point. 
[For the artwork], I had already started the song and I had already written the chorus and [decided to] call it “Circles” but hadn’t finished the verses. Sascha Bravery, (cover artwork designer) started making all of this work with circles in it, and I was just like ‘get fucked, no way!’ Sascha and I were in touch so much when the floods happened… it was really intense. Just to make a work about her and our community and then she started doing pieces with circles in them, it was like ‘okay, this is Sascha’s song now’. 

Did you know before that you two aligned so well creatively?
We had a funny meeting, me and Sascha. It was at a dinner meeting where I was cooking and a friend of mine said, ‘oh, I’ve brought another friend’… It was Sascha and I just adored her. Straight away, I mentioned that I was looking for an art studio at the time, because I do visual art and I’m also a florist.

I was looking for an art studio and Sascha said ‘I’m about to move out of mine, you can have mine’. So, I still rent Sascha’s old art space. It was covered in drip and splatter marks of Sascha’s work. We have lived in each other quite a bit. She’s going to feature in the video which will come out next week. 

Her art will? Is it about the flood situation?
No, she will. She’s a major babe, and I was like ‘you need to be in the video!’ The video is like a documentary. Like a portrait of people that we met that were willing to speak to us about their experience. 

Have you heard feedback or responses from the community about the song?
I haven’t yet, and I’m kind of terrified. It’s really hard when you take up a topic that has so many layers to the way people experienced it and wear it on your shoulder as an artist. I’m nervous about people saying, ‘hey, you’re just milking our experience for your artistic expression’. Also, it’s just a rock song and it’s not hurting anybody. I keep trying to keep myself in check. 

Do you think it came into fruition as a mechanism to help you through the time or just to shed light on the situation?
I never really know at the time. I don’t set out with a purpose, but then a lot of my songs are really confessional. I always look at them later and realise that that’s me giving advice to myself and how much it has helped me to process something more. Even going ‘okay, this is about the floods’, and then reaching out to other people to speak to them about their experience, work with Sascha and make the video has all helped me to engage with what that was like. 

So, would you say music is one step toward coming to terms with the event or it’s the crux of coming to terms?
I think it’s one step. I think it’s something that I’ve realised I do when times are really hard for me. I make work. It’s kind of the cliché of the troubled artist. That you have to be sad to make work. I do make stuff when I’m happy as well, it’s just that I’m really proud of the fact that when I’m at the bottom of the barrel, I turn to my guitar before I do anything destructive. Or, when I am being destructive, I feel like I can move all of that energy into another place that twenty steps later is a beautiful song that I’m sharing with the world. 

Whilst speaking to Georgia, I became increasingly interested in the impact of the flood and the way it plays a role in altering the livelihoods of the community.
As you spoke to people in making the video, what do you think the biggest repercussion was on the community? Do you think people can fully recover?

I think people’s lives will be forever changed by what happened there either because they lost their homes and their belongings or their place of business and their income. It really was that serious. I think people will be forever changed. It’s not a new thing in this area. It’s the Northern Rivers; it floods. It is part of the identity here. It is something I’ve been pretty inspired by, their resilience. A few friends, Sascha as an example, got back up on the horse.
Especially when you don’t have much and you lose everything, it’s such a slap in the face. It’s so crushing when you’re on the fringe, fighting for a creative life, which is a really hard lifestyle. It’s so much harder to get back with your front foot. To get back to ground zero is that much harder. 

Would you say music has had a big role in opening people’s eyes to the state of the climate and the environment?
I hope it does. I think it’s starting to change. I do think artists are posed to communicate with people that transcends a dry, factual and scientific message. I think it’s good if musicians can use that to say something that might be of value to the world. I say that with a grain of salt because that kind of ego in music, I don’t have much interest in. I do think that reflecting on your shared experience and how that relates to the way the environment is changing is super important.
I’d rather see musicians doing more outside it, even if they don’t want to write about the environment. Do more to support environmental causes even if it’s privately because the environmental footprint of music is really huge, and we have a lot to answer for. Touring, single use plastic in festivals… there’s so much in this music industry that needs to change. 
I’m going to jumping on two things [this] week. I’m going to be joining Jack Johnson’s beach clean-up crew for Bluesfest. They’re pushing all the BYO bottles with Green Music Australia. I try and do as much as I can with them. It’s just about reforming the music industry in relation to the environment. On the Sunday afternoon, I’m going to go sing with Bob Brown at his Stop Adani convoy. It’s just a nice community as well, they’re really good people. 

Do you think you’ve influenced other people around you by taking on these actions?
I have no idea! I wouldn’t want to think about it. I don’t like to do things based on how other people might view them. All my band mates are greenies themselves… we’ve all got to get on board. 

The production aspect of ‘Circles’ follows an idiosyncratic, disoriented journey. Some lyrics are sung with an off-beat unpredictability, keeping listeners engaged and captivated. 
How have you learnt to push the envelope and how have producers helped there?
We worked with Matthew Neighbour (Matt Corby) and Alex Henriksson. We recorded both our records pretty much live in the bandroom. There’s all of us in the one room. A couple of tracks aren’t even to a quick-track because we just wanted to capture human beings making music in a room. Inherently, when you do that, you get a lot of idiosyncratic things that happen that you can’t remove.
That limits you in a way that can be really positive. It’s a really nice way to record. That’s how we recorded ‘Circles’, and then we just layered a few other things. It was Matt Neighbour’s vision around it, but when we were working out the credits, I was speaking to Matt and he said to me ‘you have to list Moreton as a producer as well, because you guys totally produced this too’. I feel like we have a lot of vision for the sound we are making. We’re not passive in that process. We’re really engaged with how it sounds. We’ve all done recording ourselves, I’ve done a bit of production myself over the years too.

The guitar in ‘Circles’ has a refreshing fluidity alongside Georgia’s deep vocals. 
What do you think makes it the best fit for your vocal?
That’s me and Travis on guitar. We use detuning a lot, because my voice is super low. ‘Circles’ is definitely totally detuned. It’s also in a semi-open tuning, which is why it has that droney, open sound because it’s already making a chord before you’ve played one. I don’t know why I’m really drawn to the guitar. It’s really fun to play, but then there’s something about the way a string instrument sounds with my voice that is a better pairing than the piano. I do play the piano, but I always end up changing to the guitar. 

Do you think you change guitar to fit your voice, or change your voice to fit the guitar?
I think I’m trying to fit everything around my voice. It’s sort of going to be the pinnacle of what you’re doing. Whether you’re choosing to sing loud, or soft or sweetly, then you have to either complement or contrast that with what you do with your arrangement and your sounds. You just get sounds in your head, like ‘the guitar needs to sound like this’, and then it’s the quest for finding that sound. You never do, but the quest is what makes it sound the way it does. If you didn’t have the initial spark or inspiration in your mind of what it should sound like, and you’re going on a journey trying to make it sound [exactly] like that, then you wouldn’t do anything. 

In that quest, how have you capitalised on support of bandmates and producers? Have you always appreciated involvement?
Totally. I’m definitely a collaborator and I love being in a group situation. I do tend to write the songs on my own and then take them to the band when they’re pretty much finished and we’re ready to just arrange them and work on the sounds. I don’t know why that is. I’d love to write in front of my bandmates, but I just can’t. 

Can you sing in front of them?
I can. Often when I write, if it’s not finished, I have sentences that don’t make sense and words that are just placeholders to communicate the vowel sound, but they will probably change. I’ve only just gotten comfortable enough to sing that stuff in front of them. It’s confronting. Sometimes I liken it to doing a wee in front of someone. You can do it, but it’s not that comfortable. That’s kind of like showing a new song to my bandmates. 

Receiving the prestigious Carol Lloyd Award made the creation of ‘Circles’ possible. The funding received permitted Moreton to access the necessary resources and facilities to bring the track to life. 
What is the award about and how did you get involved?

It’s basically a grant that I applied for in 2017. It’s centred around Carol Lloyd’s legacy. She was a really strong feminist, very much about women’s rights. She was one of the first women of rock and roll back when it was just a total boys club. She’s a really inspiring Brisbane icon. That’s the spirit of the award. I think they were trying to keep it centred around rock music, because there’s more opportunity for women in pop and folk, but not so much focusing on rock. 

 

How helpful has it been to be a female and be given a voice? Without it, do you think women would not have a chance to be perceived or heard?
It’s good to have prized centred around women, where women get money to do things. I don’t know how I would have made this record without it. It was written when I applied, and it was the only thing holding me back, which is so often the case for independent artists. You could be so much more prolific, but it costs a lot to make a record.

It would have been a different record if I hadn’t received it because we were able to work in a really beautiful studio, ‘Airlock Studios’, in Brisbane. It was one of the Powderfinger guys’ new studio, which was so lovely. It was so Brissie represent, like ‘I’m in the Powderfinger studio, and I’m from Brisbane as well’. Just a part of history more so than anything. There’s a few special things in store for the record that we wouldn’t have been able to afford to do if we hadn’t received the award. 

Outside of what it has done for this record, how has the process of being judged and going for the award enhanced you?
The award itself has a community around it, centred around the Queensland Music Festival. That whole team is so fantastic and continued to be a support to me even once the record was done. Throughout the process of putting it out, they’ve been really supportive. To be on the radar of the people who judged it, as well, I’m able to reach out to them and say ‘here’s the record I made, because you made it possible,’ and they’re likely to listen to it because of that history. It’s just community building and I think that is an important space to be building for women in music and women in Queensland. 

Do you think community building is confidence building?
Yes and no. I think it is, but I also, I felt a lot of pressure… It’s like I have to do something not shit with this grant, which can be a little bit stressful. At the same time… I don’t really need to hold too much guilt. 

Especially, when Moreton uses it as a vehicle to empower the wider community. Whether or not someone is enduring a flood, the song has a sentiment that can apply to people, whatever their path may be. 
Oh good! Totally. That’s the way I tried to twist the lyrics. Especially in the second verse of, “the high water is a state of mind,” I wanted it to be something that wasn’t just so unique to my experience, because that’s a selfish way to create. That’s why I use the world around me and I try to write a lot with the five senses. Everybody can experience it. We can all relate as soon as you’re talking about the way something sounds or feels.

We all know what it’s like to have something happen where you’re like ‘that is so unfair! That can’t be happening’. We’ve all had those moments, whether it is something more trivial… about those punishing Alanis Morissette ‘Ironic’ moments, to huge, big things, like people who are marginalised by society, society makes them feel invisible, who are crushed by systems that they can’t control. I hope there’s space for everybody in this song. 

The use of metaphor is the element that makes the song so universal. It is a powerful tool to aid people’s understanding of concepts relative to their lives. 
Exactly! You can just abstract it a little bit and apply your own meaning to it. That’s what I do when I listen to my favourite song-writers. When I listen to their songs, I’m like ‘that means so much to me. How did you know how to say it?’ It’s because they’ve said it in a way that is so universal.

Georgia is embarking on a 3 date solo tour, representing Moreton in May.
Have you ever done it solo?

I have. It all sort of started solo. The first Moreton gig was a solo gig. It’s always terrifying. It’s never not terrifying being on stage on your own and showing the songs so raw. ‘Circles’ solo is so raw and so heavy, and to scream at the end with one guitar! It will be a rollercoaster! 

Do you think you will keep it as close as possible to the studio version?
Yeah! It does sound quite a lot like that. It doesn’t have as much space around it with effects, with drones and washy symbols. It’s pretty true to form because we played it live in the studio to record it. That is me playing the guitar how I’m going to play it when I’m going to play it solo, minus Travis’ sick guitar solo. I’ll do some floaty vocals and compensate for it! 

But it being intimidating will give you more joy when you do conquer it! 
Oh, before I go on to every gig, especially solo gigs, [I say that] I’m going to quit music. Every time get off, I’m like ‘I’ve climbed Mount Everest… I can achieve anything!’ It’s such a rollercoaster. Three jam packed days of all of the feels, followed by a lot of sleep. 
I’m going to open the night. It’s probably less pressure. There’s less people there! It’s a privilege to open. It’s always great to be asked to go on tour, especially when the artists are sick. 


There are an abundance of lessons and insights audiences can take from Moreton’s music and Georgia’s mentality on the world whilst navigating life’s ups and downs. 

Listen to ‘Circles’ and be sure to follow Moreton on tour:
May 2nd,
Lansdowne Hotel, Chippendale, NSW – Tickets

May 3rd, Black Bear Lodge, Brisbane, QLD – Tickets
May 4th, Northcote Social Club, Melbourne, VIC – Tickets

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